Dr. Gardner appears in a podcast by Worklife and sponsored by Atlassian.

I was pleased to share our research in a fiery debate between Kelvin Yap and Dominique Ward over the limitations and opportunities of agile at scale. Moderated by Christine Dela Rosa of WorkLife and sponsored by Atlassian, Kevin and Dominique argue for – and against – scaling agile.

In the episode (link below), Lutron Electronics’ Ben Bard talks about how scaling agile united his company’s hardware and software teams, and Excella’s Nicole Spence-Goon discusses the empowerment that scales agile gives teams.